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    >> whitening from aquafresh.

    >>> david letterman may have thwarted an alleged attempt at blackmail but a national admission on television that he slept with women that worked for him has opened a new conversation.

    >> reporter: with david accused extortionist letterman'su out on bail, much of the attention is on letterman's stunning admission on thursday night.

    >> i have had sex with women who work for me on this show.

    >> reporter: according to "the new york times" that includes a 34 year old who was one of the letterman's assistants who lived with joe halderman. in an alumni magazine from 2003 , she gushed about the fun work environment calling letterman the greatest boss i could ever have. now, other former late night employees who claim they were involved with "letterman" are coming forward. tmz.com reports a former intern said she had a romantic relationship with letterman in the early 1990s before he called it off because the age gap was too great. the confession sparked a national debate about whether on the job romances were inappropriate.

    >> we don't know if he crossed the line in a legal sense but in a workplace sense it seems clear that he did.

    >> reporter: world wide pants says the comedian did not violate its policy and no one ever filed a complaint. some wonder whether letterman's public admission might change all that. for "today," peter alexander , nbc news, new york.

    >>> joining us now isw3 dan abrams and a "today" show contributor and a psychologist. the company says there's no violation of company policy. was there a violation of good judgement?

    >> sure. any time you hear that a boss is having sex with people who work for that person, you get concerned. in the context of this case, so far there has been no complaint. there's been no lawsuit. and as a result it seems that a lot of people are talking about what might happen, what could happen legitimate questions, but so far none of those complaints have happened. david letterman married someone that worked for someone. there wasn't a national outrage, my goodness, david letterman married someone he works for.

    >> your point is well taken. when we hear the term consensual, what about the other employees that work in that office? did they consent and is that an issue for them?

    >> the whole thing is an issue. for the person that's involved, is it consensual if your boss who has all kinds of authority who you want to like you and admire you and appreciate you, can yes really be yes? we say so but i'm just saying for peopleht out there, they should realize that it's a very powerful situation when your boss shows interest in you. you may not really think it through. for the other people, of course, it's a two-way sword in that they may feel this person was only promoted or only thought well of because they gave sex.

    >> some may think thisabout that retro actively.

    >> gail is right. people feel it's unfair. did they get that raise because they had a leg up by being with the boss. no pun intended. we have to look at --

    >> no pun intended, really?

    >> no fun intended.

    >> we've all talked about this at some point. people work very long hours. who will they meet and have relationships? people they work with. it's not uncommon. where the lines?

    >> the bottom line is that every company has -- major company, has a policy with regards to this. they differ. not just sexual harassment . disclosure issues. if someone says there was no harassment but you are having a relationship with someone who works for you, you must disclose it to a superior. we don't know who these people were. we don't know what the context was. we don't know when it happened. david letterman didn't say it happened 20 years ago, 10 years ago, there are a lot of people out there in my view who are almost sort of asking for sexual?[ harassment lawsuits. you know what? there may not be one in the context of this case.

    >> is that an acknowledgement that things are changing in the workplace and back to the issue that co-workers not only superiors but co-workers in general date and relationships blossom.

    >> you are with these people all day but they are like minded. they have similar interests. similar career drive. obviously there's a big gray zone here but beyond the laws i think you really have to think very carefully because you may be thinking you're helping your self by having sex . you may be undermining yourself by having sex and no one will respect you and think you got there on your own.

    >> is it always consensual? is there pressure sometimes?

    >> subconsciously there may be pressure where you feel if you don't make that move that it won't help your career.

    >> it will hurt you.

    >> if you make it, it may hurt your career. there's nothing illegal here. we agree on that. you have to be smart about what you do that there are always potential hazards if you're the boss and you're involved with a subordinate.

    >> a healthy conversation to have. i'm sure it's being had other places as well. thank you for coming on. sometimes, the little things in life feel like our biggest enemies.

updated 10/4/2009 10:19:22 PM ET 2009-10-05T02:19:22

Add NBC's "Saturday Night Live" to the shows making sport of David Letterman's difficulties. But in the hands of "SNL," Dave got off pretty easy.

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On Thursday, the "Late Show" host had acknowledged having sex with some of the women who worked for him, and told his viewers he was the victim of a blackmail attempt.

On "SNL," "Weekend Update" anchor Seth Meyers dubbed the extortion attempt by a CBS News producer "a stupid human trick."

Meyers added that the would-be blackmailer was threatening to reveal embarrassing details of Letterman's personal life, then gave a joking example: "After sex, he would always say, 'Stay tuned for Craig Ferguson.'"

Letterman's fellow TV hosts Jay Leno and Jimmy Fallon are among comics who already had zinged him on their shows.

Leno kicked off his monologue Friday by declaring, "If you came here tonight for sex with a talk show host, you've got the wrong studio."

He continued, "The guy that was trying to blackmail Letterman was a producer for the show '48 Hours.' It could have been worse: At least he wasn't producer of 'To Catch a Predator.'"

Also on NBC, "Late Night" host Jimmy Fallon had his own wisecrack: "There's a new book out called 'Why Women Have Sex' that says there are 237 reasons why women have sex. And folks, Letterman knows the top 10."

ABC's Jimmy Kimmel spared Letterman in his Friday monologue.

So did Conan O'Brien on NBC's "Tonight Show." He also dodged the issue when guest Drew Carey brought it up.

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"I would hate to be on opposite Letterman tonight with all that sex stuff going on," Carey said. "That's got to be tough."

"No comment," O'Brien responded quickly.

Still to be heard from: Jon Stewart on "The Daily Show" and Stephen Colbert on "The Colbert Report." Both Comedy Central shows are dark on Fridays, but will be back with fresh episodes Monday.

So will CBS' Craig Ferguson, host of "The Late Late Show," whose Friday edition had been taped earlier in the week. On Monday, the comically outspoken Ferguson will be able to add his zingers. But there's a potentially delicate situation: Letterman's Worldwide Pants produces his show. That makes Letterman his boss.

Video: SNL pokes fun at Obama It remains to be seen whether Letterman will suffer long-term damage just as his career appears to be peaking. Letterman has taken over as the king of late-night in the ratings this summer, and last week he beat NBC's "Tonight" show host Conan O'Brien for the first time among young viewers.

Friday night's "Late Show" was taped in advance on Thursday, meaning Letterman won't be taping an episode after his revelation until at least Monday. But Friday's show did include a moment — coincidental in retrospect — when guest Larry David unwittingly suggested that he beat Letterman's record of having the fewest number of dates for someone with a TV show.

"Oh, I don't know," replied Letterman, grinning knowingly.

Accused lived with show staffer
Robert J. "Joe" Halderman, a producer for the true-crime show "48 Hours Mystery," pleaded not guilty in a Manhattan court to one count of attempted first-degree grand larceny, punishable by five to 15 years in prison. Prosecutors said Halderman, who was released after posting $200,000 bail, was desperate and deep in debt.

Halderman's connection to Letterman was not immediately clear, but public records show that until August, he lived in Norwalk, Conn., with Stephanie Birkitt, a 34-year-old woman who works on the "Late Show" staff and used to work at "48 Hours."

Birkitt was an assistant to Letterman on the "Late Show" and frequently appeared on camera with the host in comedy bits. Last month, Birkitt moved to Manhattan. There was no answer Friday at a phone listed in her name.

Halderman wouldn't speak to reporters at his house Saturday morning and threatened to call police if they didn't leave the private road that leads to his modest three-bedroom house.

Video: Letterman confession no laughing matter It was unclear how many women were involved with Letterman, 62, who married longtime girlfriend Regina Lasko in March. The couple began dating in 1986 and have a son, Harry, born in November 2003.

All the affairs took place before Letterman's marriage, said Tom Keaney, spokesman for Letterman's production company, Worldwide Pants. Keaney also said Letterman "is not in violation" of the company's harassment policy "and no one has ever raised a complaint against him."

CBS issued a statement Friday: "We think it was appropriate for Dave to disclose the matter publicly as he has, and we are continuing to cooperate with authorities."

CBS would not address questions about whether Letterman faced any disciplinary actions for relationships with subordinates.

'Destroy the reputation'
Halderman gave the talk show host a package of materials that "contained clear, explicit and actual threats that indicate this defendant ... (wanted to) destroy the reputation of Mr. Letterman and to submit him and his family to humiliation and ridicule," Assistant District Attorney Judy Salwen said in court. Video: Letterman moves past awkwardness

Halderman, hands cuffed behind his back, stared at the floor during most of Friday's court hearing and said only "not guilty."

His lawyer, Gerald Shargel, said Halderman worked at CBS for 27 years and had no prior criminal record. He described him as an involved father who coached soccer, baseball and football and has two children, ages 11 and 18.

"This story is far more complicated than what you heard this afternoon," Shargel said outside court, but he would not elaborate.

Halderman allegedly left an envelope in Letterman's car early Sept. 9. According to authorities, he wrote that he needed money and said Letterman's world would "collapse around him" if damaging information about him were made public.

Letterman acknowledged that the letter contained proof that the late-night host had sexual relationships with members of his staff.

Three meetings between Letterman's lawyer and Halderman subsequently took place, the last two with the lawyer recording the conversations and prosecutors listening in, District Attorney Robert Morgenthau said.

At the last meeting, on Wednesday, the lawyer gave Halderman a phony check for $2 million, Morgenthau said.

Halderman deposited the check Thursday and was arrested that day, he said.

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